Sep
20

“Techniques and Arts,” from Budo Bum

“At practice last night, while we were doing iaido, there were some no-gi grappling guys using another piece of the dojo for their practice. Being a judoka, I’ve rolled around with them a little bit, and they are good at what they do. They study individual techniques for take-downs and submissions, and they can apply them in sparring quite well.”

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Comments

  1. I agree…”This is one of the basic things that differentiate an art form, a way, from a collection of skills. Someone can be a great technician without understanding the principles from which the individual techniques are derived, but without a grasp of the foundations on which the techniques are built, you can never go beyond the level of a technician. You are stuck with collecting techniques. A lot of what I see in the MMA and no-gi grappling fighters are technique collectors, without anything more going on.”…and I love stealing techniques.

  2. From a police forum on DT…

    http://www.realpolice.net/forums/ask-cop-112/29070-koga-v-everthing-else.html

    You want a serious/professional opinion? Ok.

    Asking what “worked better” for someone else, especially total strangers, in unknown circumstances or under unknown conditions, doesn’t do you a whole lot of good. Why? Just because someone made a technique work for him doesn’t meant it will work for you. Just because someone can’t make a technique work doesn’t mean it’s a poor technique. Just because a technique works (or doesn’t work) for someone doesn’t mean that the system is good and/or worth your time (or not).

    IMO, you should train in both (or whatever is available to you), become proficient, and try your luck using techniques against realistically resisting/fighting opponents. You will quickly find out what works for you and what doesn’t.

    And no, I don’t have ANY formal training in Koga or PPCT. BUT, as Dan Inosanto has said, just about all the ways of hurting the human body have already been invented/discovered – a long time ago. I’m pretty sure that, at one point or another in my MA background, I have been exposed to most of what is taught in Koga and PPCT.

    Blunt force trauma is blunt force trauma, hyperextension is hyperextension, broken bones are broken bones, etc. Similarly, we don’t use Koga or PPCT per se in our DT curriculum but I’ll bet some of the techniques are the same.

    There certainly may be political or financial or other reasons why Koga is taught over PPCT or vice versa. In actuality, it doesn’t matter what name someone gives a particular technique or who it was that originated it – if it works, use it. If it doesn’t, toss it.

    Again, just because this or that department uses Koga or PPCT or this or that guy swears that Koga or PPCT is the best/worst, it doesn’t mean anything on an individual/personal level…

  3. …O Sensei is reported only to have good things to say about other arts. so, with that in mind, see if you can convert grabs to controlling techniques and takedowns. you can’t ALWAYS wait around for the other guy to do something. i got the inspiration from a few of O Sensei’s moves in his ’30s movie “Budo” available from the estimable Pranin Sensei… ;-)